Previously: A Tabernacle and an Assembly Hall
Over the long, lonely roads trudged the oxen day by day, hauling the heavy logs to Salt Lake City. At times there were as many as twenty large wagons, each with three yoke of oxen drawing its load. The roads were rough and dusty, and many streams had to be bridged that the wagons could pass over them without difficulty. In crossing one stream in southern Utah, the logs were let down over the bank with ropes and the oxen driven some miles to find a ford, where they crossed and followed on down the bank to pick up the wagons and loads again. The timber was finally landed in Salt Lake City. (A Tabernacle in the Desert, Stewart L. Grow, p. 72)
After securing the lumber, we are told that Ridges set about collecting the other supplies he would need to construct the organ. He made a trip to Boston where he "procured spring wire, thin sheet brass, soft fluff leather for the valves, ivory for the keys, and other items which could not be manufactured in Utah" (Ibid, p. 72). Supposedly, glue, leather bellows from tanned hides, and nails were made locally in Utah.
The distance between Boston and Salt Lake City is around 2,100 miles, and in 1866, Ridges would've had to rely on horse and wagon to get to Council Bluffs, Iowa, a distance of over 800 miles. From there he could've made his way to Boston by train. A typical horse-drawn wagon covered between 20-30 miles a day, so about 80 days of 1866 would have been burned up just traveling across the plains to procure materials. Traveling by train from Council Bluffs to Boston could have taken a week or two, and securing materials to build the organ, making shipping arrangements, and getting the material back to Council Bluffs could have easily taken over a month.
Finally, getting the material (including the heavy brass to make the pipes) back to Salt Lake across the plains probably would have required several fully-loaded wagons. This trip back would have been slow and dangerous, requiring more teamsters and other employed men to help transport and keep Mr. Ridges' valuable load safe and secure (from raiding Indians or groups of bandits).
In all, this detour to Boston to secure materials would have taken a minimum of 120 days, or a third of the entire year of 1866.
We are told that after Ridges returned, he was able to complete enough of the pipe organ (apparently by himself) to have it ready for use in the first conference held in the Tabernacle in October of 1867. This means that the narrators want us to believe that Mr. Ridges completed the first phase of the massive organ in just over a year. This would have been completely impossible, because in our modern day, construction of much smaller organs (than the one in the Tabernacle) can typically take a full crew working for an organ company anywhere from 1-2 years, using modern power tools, large machine shops, computers for drafting plans, CNC machinery for cutting out parts, and semi-trucks for transporting.
Once an organ is designed and built it has to be disassembled, moved to the site, installed and, laboriously tuned. Installation of a large organ today can take a modern company working with state-of-the-art technology anywhere from six months to two years. Organs are extremely complicated instruments, consisting of thousands of precise working parts, and hundreds of tons of material. Yet, we are told that in August of 1866, a few months before the organ was used for general conference, Brigham Young directed it to be "put in the west end of the new Tabernacle...", while the roof was being finished and the interior scaffolding was still being taken down. This was done, we are told, to cover the organ and keep it out of the weather.
Where was it being built and housed before? We are not told. And are we suppose to believe that after all this effort and expense to build the Tabernacle organ it was disassembled and then reassembled again in the Tabernacle, before the roof was even finished?
In his Master's Thesis, Stewart L. Grow surmises that the installation of the incomplete organ only took two months:
Although the preliminary work on the organ was started in 1866, the base for the organ was not laid in the Tabernacle until the summer of 1867. Truman O. Angell records the laying of the foundation for the organ: "Tuesday, August 6, 1867. All the fore part of today my attention was on placing the stones to take the timbers under the organ, singers stand etc." From the time of the laying of the foundation for the organ the work progressed rapidly, because it was in condition to accompany the choir at the first meeting in the Tabernacle on October 6, 1867. Thus, the organ was installed in its place and was sufficiently tuned to accompany the singing in the short space of two months. This indicates that most of the building of its parts was done at a place other than in its location in the Tabernacle. (Quoted in Esplin, The Tabernacle: "An Old and Wonderful Friend", pp. 206-207, emphasis added)
Although Grow claims the organ was tuned, a newspaper reported that Brigham Young declared that despite its not being tuned, it was still able to accompany the choir. Notice the language of the article excerpt below, painting Ridges as some kind of superhero working day and night getting the organ ready:
[President Brigham Young] thought it proper to say something of the unfinished condition of the organ. Not over one-third of the pipes were up, and till the casing was built, they had thrown around it a loose garment. It was now only about fifteen feet high, but when completed it would be forty feet high. Bro. Ridges and those who had labored with him had done the best they could, and notwithstanding their diligence, by early day, noon, and night, they had been unable to have it properly tuned. It was, however, in a condition to accompany the choir, and he was pleased with it. ("The Thirty-Seventh Semi-Annual Conference," Salt Lake Daily Telegraph, October 8, 1867)
The storytellers tell us that work continued on the pipe organ for the next three years, and it is estimated that in the summer of 1870 it was finally finished, consisting of: 2,368 pipes, two manuals, 27 pedals, and 35 stops. The largest pipe was 32 feet tall, and the beautiful 600 square-foot wooden case that housed the organ was 40 feet tall.
The artwork on the organ was immaculately carved into the smooth pine wood with hammers and hand chisels before power tools were invented as shown below:
The face above sure looks a lot like all the other Old World art (graven images) that we have seen on many buildings, usually carved in stone. Compare it to the photos below I took inside a cathedral (built in the 1870s) from a recent trip to Boston:
The Lord talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire—I stood between the Lord and you at that time, to show you the word of the Lord, for you were afraid by reason of the fire and went not up into the mount—saying, I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make any engraved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth. (Deuteronomy 2:10, RE, emphasis added)
This, dear readers, makes entirely no sense at all.
For any of you who live close to downtown Salt Lake City, when you have some spare time just walk around and look at some of the older “pioneer” era buildings, and take note of all the carvings of human faces, lions, eagles, demons, gargoyles, dragons, etc.
You'll begin to see these graven images everywhere. The same is true for any major city in the United States supposedly built in this era.
Was all of this built by a Christian nation, or by some other people who did not acknowledge or worship the God of the Old Testament bible who gave the Ten Commandments to Moses?
Built in Pieces
There was a time, not many years distant, when the number of old GG organs existing (many of which contained pipe work of great excellence) would have afforded reasonable excuse for a long chapter upon this fascinating subject. As a matter of fact such organs have now virtually disappeared, and the few that remain scarcely justify a writer in devoting space to their possibilities. It is with organs, as with every other industrial product. Now, when the seams of coats are not intentionally spoiled to prevent this, the material itself is seldom good enough.
Moreover, even in the case of instruments by thoroughly first-class builders, the modern organ is such an ephemeral thing, made of toy-like motors, magnets, and wires, and one whose fashion changes so quickly, that--to follow up my simile--it is better to buy another garment, than to have an old one, already shewing signs of wear, remade according to a new fashion. The old slider and pallet sound board, when well made, is practically everlasting; but it is quite different in the case of the intricate (and of necessary fragile and perishable) work of which modern organs are composed. Lastly, age does not appear to improve modern pipes to the extent (probably from the higher pressures of wind now used,) it did those of the old school of builders. (Organ Construction, p. 53-54)If society is supposed to be "evolving," then why was the quality of pipe organs actually diminishing at the turn of the 20th century, at the apex of the industrial revolution no less? If we are truly advancing in technology and industry shouldn't the quality of our manufacturing increase? This brings up an important question: were all of the best pipe organs built by the previous civilization, and did our modern society just do its best to duplicate the technology pioneered by them?
According to official history, early 19th century organs had manual pumps for air bellows operated by workers while the organist was playing the keys on the console. We are told that later innovations involved powering the pumps with water wheels. According to Stewart Grow, there was a story told by an old Tabernacle Block guide (keep in mind Grow wrote his thesis in the late 40s) named Samuel S. Bateman, about a time when a distinguished guest was invited to perform on the organ at the Tabernacle. When the performance began he put his fingers to the keys yet no sound came out.
A little later [after the dignified guest incident] a large waterwheel was put in the basement of the Tabernacle, and that provided power for the organ. (Ibid, p. 209, emphasis added)
Grow claims that this waterwheel was powered by diverting the flow of City Creek from North Temple Street to the basement of the Tabernacle, and from there to "a point about fifteen feet north of the present west gate." He claims that this was done in 1875.
It is no small thing to divert a creek out of its course, especially in 1875 when the only means for doing so were hand shovels. Furthermore, once diverted how did they adjust the flow to keep the water from washing out the foundation of the Tabernacle during seasonal flooding? Was there enough of a slope to keep the water running at a flow rate significant enough to power the water wheel?
As to the matter of the Tabernacle having a basement, we are given no detail of the excavation process. How many men with shovels did it take to dig it out? How many stories down did workers excavate? Was it dug down as deep as the Salt Lake Temple, exceeding four stories? Were there tunnels that connected the Tabernacle to the Temple? Was this really possible to accomplish with only hand shovels and wagons to haul out hundreds of tons of dirt?
If the basement wasn't added until 1968, then what kind of sense does it make to add a basement in an already existing building? Was it possible, even in 1968, to excavate underneath a massive building without disturbing its foundation or compromising its support structures?
According to this Tabernacle Project Fact Sheet published on the LDS Church's website, a basement was dug out in 1967, yet we not only have several other accounts of a basement already existing, we have accounts of a baptistry being installed in the basement of the Tabernacle in 1890. Apparently, scores of baptisms took place in that basement, including the baptism of Thomas S. Monson.
Supposedly, in 1935, when Monson was only eight years old, his mother took him there to be baptized on a Saturday, apparently without his father. Monson recalled in 2007 that in those days it was not "customary as it is now for fathers to baptize their children, since the ordinance was generally performed on a Saturday morning or afternoon, and many fathers were working at their daily professions or trades" (Tabernacle Memories, May 2007).
How did Thomas S. Monson get baptized in the basement of the Tabernacle in 1935 when it didn't exist until 1968?
Upon further scouring of the internet, I found this interesting article written by a blogger who goes by Latter-Day Soprano. In 2021, an 89-year old woman left a comment on the blog where she shared that her own baptism was performed in the Tabernacle in 1932:
I was baptized in the baptistry in the basement of the tabernacle. For several years I have been trying to find information about the baptistry and especially a photo. In writing my personal life history I wish to include this information and, if possible a photo. (About the Salt Lake Mormon Tabernacle, emphasis added)
Again, like Monson, how could this woman have been baptized in the basement of the Tabernacle in 1932 when the basement didn't exist until 1968? Here is the long-lost photo of the Tabernacle baptismal font this elderly woman has been looking for:
Indeed, isn't it strange that such things as wings to a massive organ and a basement to a massive building can seem to be added later with such ease?
I'm beginning to notice a common theme in all of the construction history of Old World buildings (and organs) in Utah: 19th century workmen seem to able to construct these things out of literally nothing, in record time.
Think of the patterns: the massive Tabernacle was said to be built in an isolated desert without a railroad to bring in supplies; Joseph Ridges' first organ used in the Old Tabernacle was somehow expanded into a larger organ and installed in the Assembly Hall; and the first phase of the Tabernacle organ, the largest in the United States at the time, was also built in an isolated desert in just over a year.
Only two men were actually named as the builders of the organ: Joseph Ridges and Ralph Ramsey (the carpenter said to have built the case).
Did two men actually build the Tabernacle organ in less time than professional organ manufacturing companies with hundreds of employees and state-of-the-art technology can do today?
Dear readers, this is not history, this is mythology.
Ironically, the Desert News actually references Greek mythology when describing Ridges' effort in building the organ:
The story of the building of the original Tabernacle organ is an epic of the West. In perhaps no other country could such mountains of difficulty and obstacles have piled one upon another like Pelion upon Ossia, to harass and thwart so noble an ambition as that of Joseph Ridges. (Quoted in Grow, A Tabernacle in the Desert, p. 73)
These 19th century workmen were not miracle workers, they did not have the power tools we have today, but were said to have done better work in shorter time frames. And yes, their "work" is much more elaborate than we can accomplish today, but that is because they did not build these structures. They could not have built them. They did not have the resources or the technology to do so. They did not have the manpower. The populations of 19th century cites and towns were much smaller than they are telling us.
The Freemasonic "Architects"
In Luciferianism, Lucifer the "light-bearer", the god of primordial knowledge, is also worshipped as "the Supreme Architect of the Universe." This title is a massive fraud, because Lucifer does not create anything, but only imitates the true God. But the fact that he calls himself an architect is very interesting when we consider this research into Old World buildings.
You may recall from my last post that historians recognize the fact that most 19th century architects had little to no formal schooling or training in architectural drawing or design, yet somehow managed to design and build some of the most elaborate and structurally sound stone buildings on earth, better than we can build today. How is this possible?
Could this be another pattern?
Is Lucifer incorporating his own lie about himself pretending to be an architect into the narrative of his own story, or “his-story”?
According to Freemasonic lore, Hiram Abiff (the supposed builder of Solomon's temple) is honored as one of the greatest architects that ever lived. He is an almost messianic figure to the Masons, with his story being incorporated into the very rituals that permeate Masonic halls today. Is Lucifer trying to tell his-story through the lore of this great architect named Hiram?
Manly P. Hall, in his book, The Secret Teachings Of All Ages, explains just how important this concept of architecture is in Freemasonic lore:
According to those who regard Masonry as an outgrowth of the secret society of architects and builders which for thousands of years formed a caste of master craftsman, Hiram Abiff was the Tyrian Grand Master of the world-wide organization of artisans, with the headquarters in Tyre. Their philosophy consisted of incorporating into the measurements and ornamentation of temples, palaces, mausoleums, fortresses, and other public buildings their knowledge of the laws controlling the universe. Every initiated workman was given a hieroglyphic with which he marked the stones he trued to show to all posterity that he thus dedicated to the Supreme Architect of the Universe each perfected product of his labor. Concerning Mason's marks, Robert Freke Gould writes:
"It is very remarkable that these marks are to be found in all countries -- in the chambers of the Great Pyramid at Gizeh, on the underground walls of Jerusalem, in Herculaneum and Pompeii, on Roman walls and Grecian temples, in Hindustan, Mexico, Peru, Asian Minor -- as well as on the great ruins of England, France, Germany, Scotland, Italy, Portugal and Spain." (Kindle Edition, p. 204, emphasis added)
Hall's admission here is most revealing: Freemasonry is a guild of "architects" who meet together in secret societies. But obviously, they are not real architects, their architecture is nothing but symbolism, as in they are architects of society, their building materials consisting of human beings and societal constructs.
They did not build all of the Old World buildings that have been the subject of this series, and the "marks" that Mr. Gould writes about that are found in myriad buildings spread across the entire world, were obviously put there by some past civilization, not by Freemasons.
Like Lucifer, the Freemasons did not create or build anything, but a house of cards supported upon a foundation of lies.
Yet, the Freemasonic connection to Old World buildings is a massive clue to the fraud that has become our accepted history. Just as Mr. Hall writes, the Masons have dedicated to Lucifer (their supreme architect of the universe) all of the buildings which they have, in my opinion, founded and taken over. They, being liars, dedicate their spoils to the greatest liar, Lucifer. This, to me, is the most revealing pattern that the true origins of these great buildings has been covered up and hidden from us.
My Lunch Break did an interesting video on this very subject of Freemasons controlling the building narrative:
According to Wikipedia, the name of the pillar was changed due to "the master mason in charge of the stonework... and his young apprentice mason." So we have two pillars, the Apprentice and the Mason, representing the two pillars of Solomon's temple, Jachin and Boaz. In Freemasonic lore, these pillars were built by Hiram Abiff, the original Master Mason who was martyred in a ritualistic manner by the three ruffians, representing the Church, the State, and the Mob.
Now, I don't know what the fasci meant to the previous civilization that actually constructed these buildings, but I suspect it may have represented some type of advanced technology that could've been used for good or evil. To our modern society, the fasci represents the State's great power over the individual. The significance of the Lincoln Memorial displaying the fasci is symbolic of Abe being the great centralizer, crushing states rights and forcing all Americans to become subject to a centralized federal government; a treasonous act that violated every principle the original Constitution was based upon.
I scarcely ever say much about revelations, or visions, but suffice it to say, five years ago last July [1847] I was here, and saw in the Spirit the Temple not ten feet from where we have laid the Chief Cornerstone. I have not inquired what kind of Temple we should build. Why? Because it was represented before me. I have never looked upon that ground, but the vision of it was there. I see it plainly as if it was in reality before me. Wait unit it is done. I will say, however, that it will have six towers, to begin with, instead of one. Now do not any of you apostatize because it will have six towers, and Joseph only built one. It is easier for us to build sixteen, than it was for him to build one. (Journal of Discourses, 1:133)
Brigham said a lot here, and I believe much of it is encoded with layered meanings. The Chief Cornerstone is a Masonic concept, "the Chief Cornerstone the builder's rejected." It is symbolic of the ignorant rejecting light and truth, and is displayed symbolically as the top of a pyramid, which is missing on the pyramid that displayed on the back of the U.S. dollar bill.
The phrase is also used in Christianity, with Jesus being the Chief Cornerstone, but to the Freemasons, the Chief Cornerstone represents gnosis, or primordial knowledge. (Remember, Luciferian's believe they are saved through knowledge, and not a literal Savior like Christ.)
Why would Brigham use this terminology (and capitalize it so we know what he is talking about) in regard to the cornerstone of the Salt Lake Temple?
Next Brigham says that he never had to inquire of the Lord "what kind of Temple we should build." Why did he say that? This flies against very basic teachings in scripture. Nephi had to inquire about a thing as simple as finding ore to smelt to make tools to build a ship. The brother of Jared had to inquire about how to light (with sixteen stones) the barges that he built to cross the great deep, and Joseph Smith's every inquiry led to a direct revelation from the Lord. The fact that Brigham said that he did not have to inquire is revealing who he really is: an imposter in sheep's clothing.
And of course he did not have to inquire of the Lord because as we are starting to realize that the Temple was there all along. Of course he knew how many towers it would have, because they already existed ("I see it as plainly as if it was in reality before me"). But why did he say that it was easier for them to build sixteen towers, than for Joseph to build one?
What is the significance of 16? Find out in my next post.
There were four cornerstones laid in the ceremony that took place on April 6 of 1853. These stones were supposedly quarried from Red Butte Canyon, and were made of firestone (another clue; think fire narrative). The stones were 2 x 3 x 5 feet in size. These are also symbolic numbers. 2 represents the power of 2, or the 2nd dimension, and 3 represents the power of three, or the 3rd dimension. 5 represents the perfect fifth in music, which synthesizes the powers of 2 and 3 (much more about this in my next post).
The southeast cornerstone was laid by the First Presidency and the Church Patriarch, the Presiding Bishopric (representing the Aaronic priesthood) laid the southwest corner, and the Stake Presidency and high priests laid the northwest corner.
The Twelve, seventies, and elders laid the northeast cornerstone, the stone representing the Masonic Entered Apprentice.
Dear readers, in all reality, this ceremony was most likely the Masonic claiming and founding of this temple they had discovered. The Twelve, having usurped the authority of the Church in opposition to the checks and balances Joseph had established, was claiming ownership of its new Masonic temple, granted to them by their Jesuit superiors.
Join me next time for a deep dive into the reality behind our modern music...
Wow! There is so much to unpack here. Reading your posts are a gift because I have often wondered the same things. Now I know that my questions were not unfounded. Also, Young's quotes are so eye-opening. The more I hear from him, the more I know he was not who he claimed to be. A wolf in sheep's clothing for sure.
ReplyDeleteOh wow, you're leaving us on a cliffhanger now? I'm most intrigued!
ReplyDeleteSide note, number 16 seems to have a great popularity in various forms of media. Video games like No Man's Sky, and Brandon Sanderson's books have 16 as a major foundation for their respective lore. That makes me extra interested to find out more. Thank you
Your research is so thorough! I appreciate your depth as you expound on subjects I've considered, but not researched entirely. America tends to tear down a lot of its buildings/history, but it is very interesting to look across the world where there has been less destruction. India has many old world buildings that are geometrically and mathematically so precise and intricate that one must consider previous civilizations of great advancement. One such architectural wonder I was recently made aware is the Chand Baori.
ReplyDeleteEvery time one of your posts leaves me gobsmacked in amazement, the next one gobsmacks me even harder!
ReplyDeleteOne of the admittedly minor things that popped out to me on this one was Brigham's declaration that the although the organ had not been properly tuned, it was still adequate to accompany the choir. Did Brigham have a tin ear? No choir would be able to sing along with instruments that were not in tune. I wonder how the choir struggled to keep up, as I assume they dared not complain.
Anyway, that's a minor thing. We have always been taught to be properly impressed with the accomplishments of our Utah ancestors, whether it be the massive buildings or the intricate tabernacle organ, but until I began reading your series it had never occurred to me that we were expected to believe the impossible. As you have proven time and again in this series, these complicated edifices simply COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BUILT in the time we are told they were, even WITH the power tools we have today, and using materials that could not possibly have been shipped into Utah prior to the existence of the railroads. It's telling that virtually every architect seems to have died within a year of beginning the various projects, and there is virtually no information available on the names given. It seems obvious today that these phantom architects never actually existed in the 19th century.
I finally have an understanding as to why Freemasonry was founded on builders. Early on, during my study of Freemasonry, I had an image of masons being simple workers building ordinary brick buildings. I now see why architecture was such a key factor in the whole Satanic undertaking. Odd it is that some of what we moderns consider beautiful and impressive buildings are chock full of dark imagery. And if the Salt Lake Temple is repurposed, as I now believe it to have been, God will surely destroy that wicked-looking gothic style edifice when he returns again.
Hey Kendal, curious if you have plans to put these series in book form? Would absolutely love these physically.
ReplyDeleteHey Kendal, curious if you have plans to put these series in book form? Would love to have these physically.
ReplyDeleteOops sorry to post that twice. The first time gave me an error.
ReplyDeleteI'm starting to get better insights as to why there is so much Church of Satan activity among the Brighamite LDS Corporate Babylonian whore. I praise Jehovah that the truth is being exposed by Spirit led men like you. There is Life and Truth founded in the Doctrine of Christ as given in the Book of Mormon. Thank you!
ReplyDeleteThis series has really blown my mind. But what is even more telling is that the Mormons in Nauvoo were unable to finish a temple where they had more time and resources to finish it, and what they did manage to build was nowhere near the grand scale of what was in SLC. The dimensions of Brigham's fraud just seems to grow over time. Yet still I wonder, with thousands of witnesses, how did they manage to keep everyone from spilling the beans that these structures where there? I would love to hear thoughts on that, as it is confounding that not one person we know of said anything despite the fact there were defections during that time.
ReplyDeleteThat whole thing makes me wonder about the Logan and Manti temples, completed before the Salt Lake temple, with way smaller populations, less to zero rail infrastructure and questionable timing. It's sure beginning to look like Brigham Young knew there was an uninhabited area out here and brought his followers west to establish his own Kingdom.
ReplyDeleteGood questions usually elicit more good questions:
ReplyDelete"why would they (LDS pioneers) include faces on any of their buildings when they were supposed to be a Christian people who claimed to adhere to biblical scriptures which expressly prohibit the creation and adoration of idols and graven images?"
The first of the ten commandments from God to Moses in Deuteronomy says "You shall not make any engraved image of any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth".
So what does that say about the sunstones, moonstone and stars all over the Nauvoo temple and the Salt Lake temple? And what about all the golden angel Moroni statues as the focal point on all the LDS temples? Are the ten commandments not relevant to us anymore?
Starting at the 22 minute mark and ending at the 41 minute mark there is an interesting discussion about the original Nauvoo temple. I hadn't realized that there was so much stone work involved. I began to wonder if the Nauvoo temple was a 'found' building that was being repurposed rather than being built from scratch. See video below.
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It's looking like there is increasing interest in filling in the "gaps" of the construction history of our amazing Utah pioneer era buildings. People are asking questions now:
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I was baptized in the tabernacle basement in September of 1968. The baptismal room was 2 stories tall and one of the largest rooms I had ever seen up to that time. On each side of the baptismal font were spacious dressing rooms. From where you enter the baptismal area at almost street level the room sloped downward and there were many audience seats arranged like a large theater sloping down to a stage. The day I was baptized there were hundreds of people there. The basement was not newly built it had been there a long time.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely Holy Spirit inspired insights! Wow, congrats on your spiritual connections and willingness to honor truth. The Christ said "My people perish for lack of knowledge". Thank you.
ReplyDeleteGreat insight. I do believe the SLC temple was built though. I saw pictures of the building stages back in Sunday school in the 80s and 90s. This found theory is new to me.
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